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Thursday, January 31, 2013

Walk Like A King 像個國王般的行走


Walk Like A King

January 03, 2013

Berlin, Germany

1927
Q: Why do Angels have wings, what is the symbolism of that? Can you please talk about why we have Angels in the Christian tradition.
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Man had a fascination to fly. He wanted to dominate space.
Man could walk the Earth, he could dive into the ocean and swim in the water. But what he could not do is fly. So Angels, which he considered one step above him, he gave them wings. He thought, Angels have wings because they are more powerful than man and they can fly and can go anywhere they want.
But today with the kind of airplanes we have, Angels will be much slower. We can reach much faster than them. We will leave the Angels behind somewhere.
Nobody with wings, however powerful, can fly faster than an aircraft or a helicopter.
So it is just a concept that they are more powerful than us, because it is only then that they can help us.
Angels mean those who can help us, who are more powerful, more equipped than us.
Now don’t imagine that an Angel is going to come with wings, and take you with them, and give you flowers, and all that.
 
 
Who is cunning and crafty?
One who does not have the
ability to walk like a king. If
you have the ability and the
power to do things in a
straightforward manner, you
would not do anything
surreptitiously.
 
 
Also, we see many times, Angels are depicted as children.
Do you know why are they depicted as children in the Christian tradition? This is to show innocence. The higher you go, you have to be pure and innocent inside, not cunning and crafty.
Who is cunning and crafty? One who does not have the ability to walk like a king. Someone who has less power has to manipulate and be cunning and crafty.
Someone who is very powerful, why would they be cunning and crafty? If you have the ability and the power to do things in a straightforward manner, you would not do anything surreptitiously. You will not need to.
All those people who do cunning things have no self confidence. They don’t believe that they can achieve things at their will; they think they have to do some manipulation to get there.
So Angels are depicted as children with wings because they are innocent. They are depicted to have a stout body, just like a two or three year old baby.
If you see all the Michelangelo paintings, you will see most of the angels are babies. It simply represents innocence and purity, and then ability - more ability than normal human beings.
I tell you inside you there is an angel.
In Christian tradition it is said that everyone has a guardian angel. It is not that they are only guarding you, you are part of that guardian angel; you are that! You simply have to realize that you are an angel. You have the power to do what you want to do. Know this and relax.
Q: How do I find the right balance between striving for improvement and being contented with who I am and what I am doing?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Do you know how to ride a bicycle? Exactly like that!
When you want to have balance, you will definitely have it. Just this thought, 'I want to balance my life', is good enough. You are already moving in that direction.
Now when this question arises, ‘How do I do it?’ Know you can do it. Ask yourself, your consciousness will tell you.
‘I am not balanced, I am missing out on this’, your consciousness will say it. Then you listen to your consciousness.
If you are attending to your work too much then your consciousness will prick. ‘Hey you are forgetting your family, your wife, your children, your husband’ Then you say, ‘Okay I will attend to them’
If you’re getting too immersed in the family and forget about all other things then your consciousness will prick, ‘My god what have I got into, what did I get into, day and night I’m just immersed in family affairs, I’m not being useful to the world, I have to do something I have to pursue my cause, I have to do justice to my work’. The mind will prick. Then you do that.
This wanting to keep balance in life, that very thought is good enough. It is like the fuse in the electrical system, whenever the electric current surges too much the fuse will break and save everything else. Like that a little amount of guilt must be there like the fuse in the system.
You don’t justify but that little bit is okay to have, like the fuse in an electric system. You know about the electric system and know that in the electrical board there’ll be one small box called fuse. So whenever there is an imbalance in current, the fuse will burst and save the rest of the electrical system. Like that in life, a little bit of guilt is okay but not too much.
Like salt in the food. If there is too much salt can you eat it? No. Got it? So wanting to have balance is good.
Q: I am sensitive and easily hurt. What is good about being sensitive?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Life is a combination of sensitivity and sensibility. Sensibility is of the intellect and sensitivity of the heart.
Usually people who are very sensitive they forget reason, logic. Their sensibility becomes less. And people with a lot of reason, always thinking about logic and sensibility, seem to lack sensitivity. Life needs to be a beautiful balance of both. You need to be sensitive yet strong. Usually sensitivity is equal to emotional instability. It should not lead to that.
Your sensitivity should not lead you to emotional instability. If you are strong and sensitive then you have made it in your life. Got it.
You have to be sensible and sensitive, both.
 
 
In Christian tradition it is
said that everyone has a
guardian angel. It is not
that they are only guarding
you, you are part of that
guardian angel; you are
that! You simply have to
realize that you are an
angel. You have the power
to do what you want to do.
Know this and relax.
 
 
Q: Like a GPS you guide us to our goal and destiny, but what is our goal and destiny?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: You should make a list of what is not your goal.
I want you to discover for yourself what is your goal, and what is it that you want to do.
One thing you should know is that you are very lucky. You are in a time where you are leading the world. You are in a time that will go down in history as a big transition from a self-centered, hardened society to a beautiful world.
Q: If we are old souls who have been here for eternity, are new experiences ever truly possible?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Yes, life is ancient yet new.
The Sun is very old. It is 19 billion years old, or even more.
The Earth is 19 billion years old; Sun must be even more than that, some hundreds of billions of years old. But even today, its rays are fresh and new, isn’t it?!
So life is a combination of ancient and modern; old and new.
It is the same running river from millions of years but the water is new and fresh, isn’t it?
Q: Some people say they live without food, and there is a film about this. Is this true and what do you think?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: I know a gentleman who said that he only watches sun light for food. He has mastered not eating, but sometimes he has a cup of tea with a lot of sugar in it.
See, this is about training your body. It is like in Russia how they train you in ballet. The way they bend their whole spine and the whole body is like it is made up of rubber. It took them so many days to train themselves in Russian ballet.
In the same way, if you want to train your body to live without food you can do so. But you have to do it under the guidance of one who has done it, and not just by reading books. Don’t do that. Someone who is an expert can train you, it has to be very gradual.
But why you want to do that, what is the point in it. Eat less, don’t eat too much. Yes there are people who get their energy from just the sun gazing.
In the morning you gaze because everything is energy. Our eyes are photosensitive, it’s like the solar cells, our eyes have the same quality as solar cells they can absorb energy and supply it to the body but that needs to be properly trained for. If nature had wished that way it would not have given you a mouth at all.
The mouth and all the digestive enzymes, liver and all this need to function so let them be functional also. Don’t go to those extremes.
Q: What is embarrassment?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Do I have to tell you what is embarrassment?
I know of embracement, and not of embarrassment. If you can embrace embarrassment then nothing can shake you.
One thing that people try to run away from, is embarrassment.
Embarrassment is a mild form of criticism. A mild form of feeling uncomfortable. So sometimes we need to get out of the comfort zone and feel that little bit of discomfort. Then abilities dawn in us.
像個國王般的行走
201313
德國柏林

問:為什麼天使有翅膀,那的象徵是什麼?可以請您說一說為什麼在基督教的傳統裡我們有天使嗎?

古儒吉:男人對飛翔有所迷戀。他想要主宰外太空。
男人能在地球上行走,它可以潛入海洋和在水里游泳。但是他所不能做的就是飛翔。
所以天使,他所認為是高他一等的,他給了他們翅膀。他想,天使有翅膀因為他們比男人強大而他們可以飛翔和可以去任何他們想要去的地方。
但是今天我們有很多種的飛機,天使將會是慢很多了。我們可以比他們更快抵達。我們會把天使遺落在後面的某些地方。
沒有人會有翅膀,且而有力,可以比飛機或直升機飛得更快的。
因此他們比我們強大只是一個概念,因為唯有那樣他們才能幫助我們。
天使指的是那些可以幫助我們的,那些比較有力量的,比我們更有裝備的。
現在不要去想像一個天使會以翅膀來到,然後帶你和他們一起,也給你鮮花,和那些其它的。

還有,很多時候我們看到,天使被描繪為孩童。
你知道為什麼在基督教的傳統他們被描繪為孩童嗎?那代表純真。你去得越高,你需要內在的純淨和純真,不是狡猾和欺詐的。
誰會狡猾和欺詐?一個沒有能力像個國王般行走的人。一個有比較少勢力的人需要操縱以及狡猾和欺詐。
一個很有力量的人,他們為什麼要狡猾和欺詐呢?如果你有能力和力量以正直的方式去做事情,你就不需要偷偷摸摸的去做任何事。你不需要。
那些做狡猾事情的人是沒有自信心的。他們不相信自己可以以自己的意願實現事情;他們以為他們需要些操縱才可以到達那裡。
所以天使是以有翅膀的孩童來描繪因為他們是純真的。他們也被描繪成擁有比較肥碩的身體,就像個兩三歲的嬰兒。
如果你看到所有米開朗基羅的繪畫,你會看到多數的天使都是嬰兒。它只是純粹代表純真和純淨,然後是能力——比人類有更多的能力。
我告訴你你的內在就是個天使。
在基督教的傳統是說到每個人都有個守護天使。他們不只是守護你而已,你也是守護天使的一份子;你就是那!你只需要純粹的去發覺你是個天使。你有力量去做你所要做的事情。知道這一點然後放鬆。

問:我要如何在努力改善和滿足於自己是誰和自己所做的之間找到正確的平衡?

古儒吉:你知道怎樣騎駕車嗎?
就是那樣!
當你要取得平衡,你一定會得到它。
就只是這個念頭,『我要平衡我的生活』,就很好了。你已經朝著那個方向前進了。
現在當這個問題升起時,『我要怎麼做?』知道你可以做到。問自己,你的意識會告訴你。『我不平衡,我遺失了這個』,你的意識會說這個。那你就聽你的意識。
如果你花了太多的時間在工作上那你的意識會點刺你。『嘿你忘了你的家庭,你的太太,你的孩子,你的先生』然後你說『好我會顧好他們』
如果太沉浸在家庭而忘了所有其它的事情那麼你的意識會點刺到,『我的天我栽到哪裡了,我是怎麼栽進來的,日日夜夜我就只是沉浸在家庭裡,我對世界沒有用途啊,我需要做些什麼來完成我的事業,我需要對我的工作有正義』。心智會點刺。然後你就去做。
這個要在生活裡保持平衡,這個想法本身就夠好了。它就像是在電流系統裡的保險絲,當電流湧得太多的時候保險絲就會斷裂以保護其它的東西。像這樣一點點的內疚感是必要的就像在系統裡的保險絲。
你不需要給理由但是那一點點是可以的,就象在系統裡的保險絲。你知道電流系統而你也知道電板有個小小的盒子叫做保險絲。所以當電流裡有不平衡時,保險絲會爆裂然後保護整個電流系統。生活裡就像那樣,一點點的內疚是可以的但是不可以太多。
像食物裡的鹽分,如果太多的鹽你能吃嗎?不能的。知道了嗎?所以要保持平衡是好的。
問:我很敏感而且輕易就受傷。敏感有什麼好處?

古儒吉:生命是敏感度和靈敏性的結合。靈敏性是理智而敏感度是心。
通常很敏感的人會忘了理由,邏輯。他們的靈敏性變少了。而很多理由的人,常常只想到邏輯和靈敏性,看起來是少了敏感度。生命需要兩者間的美麗平衡。你需要敏感但是也必須堅強。通常敏感度和情緒的不穩定相似。它不應該導致那個。
你的敏感度不應該領你到情緒不穩定。如果你是堅強且又敏感的那你在生命裡就達到了。知道嗎。
你必須要靈敏和敏感,兩者。
問:像個全球定位系統(GPS您帶領我們到達我們的目標和命運,但是我們的目標和命運是什麼?

古儒吉:你應該列張不是你的目標的清單。
我要你自己去探索你的目標是什麼,而你要做的是什麼。
有一件事你必須要知道的就是你是非常幸運的。你在這麼一個時代是你在領導世界的。你在這麼一個將會是名垂青史的時代因為從一個自我中心,僵硬的社會將轉變成一個美好的世界。

問:如果我們是古老的靈魂而我們會永遠在這裡,那麼新的體驗是有可能的嗎?

古儒吉:是的,生命是古老卻也是嶄新的。
太陽是很古老的。它19億歲了,或是更老。
地球是19億歲;太陽會是比那更多。但是就算是今天,它的光芒還是清新和嶄新的,對不對?!
所以生命是古老和新潮的結合;古老和嶄新。
就像河流一樣也是流動了幾億年但是水還是嶄新和清新的,對不對?

問:有些人說他們可以不需要食物來存活,而也有關於這個的電影。這是真的嗎而你又怎麼看?

古儒吉:我知道有個男士說他只是觀看太陽來攝取食物。他已經掌控了不吃東西,但是有時候他會喝杯加了很多糖的茶。
看,這就是關乎鍛煉你的身體。就像在俄羅斯他們如何鍛煉你跳芭蕾舞那樣。他們完全彎曲他們的整個脊椎和整個身體就像它是塑膠製成的那樣。在俄羅斯的芭蕾舞這是費了他們多少天來鍛煉自己。
同樣的,如果你要鍛煉你的身體可以不需要食物來存活你是可以這麼做的。但是你必須要一個已經完成它的人的指導下進行,而不只是單靠看書。不要那麼做。那些是專家的人可以訓練你,但是必須要是非常逐步的進行。
但是為什麼你要那麼做,有什麼重點。吃少量,不要吃太多。是有人只是從凝視太陽得到能量。
在早上你凝視因為所有的一切都是能量。我們的眼睛是感光的,他就像是太陽能電池,我們的眼睛和太陽能電池有同樣的性質因為它們都可以吸收能量然後把它提控給身體但是這也是需要受過適當的培訓。如果自然界要的是這樣那麼它就可以完全不需要給你嘴巴。
嘴巴和整個消化酵素,肝臟和所有的這些都需要操作所以就讓它們也操作吧。不要走到那個極端。
問:什麼是困窘?

古儒吉:我需要告訴你困窘是什麼嗎?
我知道接納,而不是困窘。如果你可以接納困窘那麼沒有其它的事情可以讓你動搖。一個人們試著躲避的事情,就是困窘。
困窘是一種輕微形式的批評。一種輕微形式的不舒服的感覺。所以有些時候我們需要走出那個舒適區而去感受一些不舒服。那這個能力就會在我們之內開始現生。

Monday, January 28, 2013

Quote of the day

"It is better to perform one's own duties imperfectly than to master the duties of another. By fulfilling the obligations he is born with, a person never comes to grief."
Krishna

Wednesday, January 23, 2013

Notice 通告

Koppi will be away from 24th to 27 for Advance course. Sorry for not able to post any articles during this time. For English readers, please do visit this link as below to read the lastest update of Guruji's knowledge. JGD
www.artofliving.org/what-sri-sri-said-today

各位讀者,譯者將於24至27日參與高級課程,所以這段時間將沒有新的古儒吉知識翻譯文章。希望大家見諒。也希望大家可以細讀過往的文章。因為古儒吉的知識就像個海洋,而每一次的潛水經驗都不一樣,有時候我們可能看到珊瑚,有時候撿到寶石,有時候又可能看到彩色魚。收益不淺。和大家共勉之。JGD。

Quote of the day


"The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely."
C.G. Jung

Monday, January 21, 2013

Being Born Again 重生

Being Born Again


December 27, 2012


Bad Antogast, Germany


1904

Q: Can you please explain why we should avoid rebirth?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: If you wake up and see, in life there is so much misery, and misery is what you don’t like. You don’t want misery.
What we don’t want to have is called misery, and it is there in life.
Between husband and wife, father and mother, mother and daughter, daughter and son; with friends and with enemies, there is misery. Even your body brings you misery. Anything you do, there is some misery.


When you are born in this world, you are dependent. When you are a baby you can’t even get up on your own, somebody has to lift you and somebody has to wipe you.
From the time you are born you are dependent, and even in old age you become dependent, but money gives you a false opinion that you are independent. That is why it is called Maya. Maya means it creates an impression.
If you give somebody a few dollar bills, they come and work for you, and that gives you the feeling that you are independent.
In life there is dependency. Where there is dependency there is misery. What is miserable is not pleasant, and you don’t want to have it. So people say, `I don’t want any more rebirth. Enough is enough.’

Just imagine, you have to go to school again, be whacked, and then go to college and go through all the teenage crises again.
Look at all those teenage children, their faces swollen; so angry. The are angry at their parents and they don’t know what to do.
See, it is not just your enemies who bother you, your friends also bother you.
Everything is a botheration.
Your mind is occupied by your friends as much as it is occupied by your enemies. So they all bother you. Moreover, keep all botherations on one side, your mind is your biggest botheration.
Nothing in the world can bother you as much as your own mind, I tell you.
In fact, others seem to be bothering you, but it is not others, it is your own mind.
You want freedom from your own mind and so you say, ‘I don’t want another birth.'
But once you know that it is your own mind that is bothering you, and not somebody else, then that is wisdom. And when wisdom dawns then you say, ‘I don’t mind if I have to be reborn ten times, or a hundred times, or a thousand times, I will come.'
Then you realize life is joy, life is bliss. This is wisdom!

Yesterday I said, mind is our best friend and mind is our worst enemy. It sees an enemy in a friend and a friend in an enemy. Your mind can twist, distort, create it’s own hell and it’s own heaven.
So what we really want is freedom from the mind, but you say, 'I don’t want to be born again.'

Q: How to deal with people with a very big ego, especially when their behavior is affecting life and others in a bad way?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar:
Let them have a big ego, why are you bothered?
You nurse an even bigger ego than them, there ends the story.
In fact you will find you have a bigger ego, I tell you.
Let others have an ego, so what? Why do you sign on a contract of destroying everybody’s ego, or making everybody’s ego smaller?
If someone has a big ego, nature will teach them. One day or the other, they will become miserable. Leave it to them. Let them enjoy the music.


Why do you become so miserable looking at the ego of others? I don’t understand that. You do what is required of you, as much as you can do, and move on. That is it.
In life we should just move on.
If someone is nasty to you, you can get up and shout at them, or scream at them, ‘Why did you do this thing to me yesterday; the day before and ten years ago?’
But I tell you, you are certainly spoiling this moment as well by talking about a mistake that happened yesterday or a month ago. You are spoiling the beauty of this moment.
I would want you to make a decision right now, ‘I don’t care what happened in the past, right now I am not going to spoil this moment’, finished.
The world is like an ocean, these sort of things happen. They happen and they go away as well. Friend become enemies and enemies become friends for no apparent reason.
How many of you have had the experience, that even though you have done only good to certain people, for no reason they have become your enemies? (Many raise their hands)
You wonder, ‘Oh my God, I did only good to this person, why is he blaming me? Why has this person become an enemy?’
Also, there are people to whom you have not done any favor and yet they have helped you a lot. How many of you have this experience? (Many raise their hands)
See, whether someone becomes your friend or your enemy, it all works on the strange laws of karma. That is why, put them all in one basket and relax. This, I have adopted as my policy.
You do so much good to one person and still if that person is angry with you, or they blame you, what do you do?
So, don’t go on chewing on that and spoil the present moment with the past.
Isn’t that a good idea? This moment let us celebrate.

In the past I used to listen to people, all their stories and their blaming one another. Suddenly I realized, ‘No, I’m not going to listen to anybody’s complaint any more. I don’t want to spoil this moment’s energy.’
Deal with your things, that is your karma. This is what the ancient people used to say.
They would never sit like counselors and listen to all your stories. They’d say, ‘Come on, wake up this moment; now (snapping his fingers)', and that would bring a huge change in the mind, in the energy, and in the time.
But you don’t start doing that right away, then you will be called the most insensitive and rude person. Got it?
Do it slowly. You have to listen to people, which I have also done for so many years. But a point should come, especially with people, when you have to say, ‘Okay, now no more.' Sometimes it happens, old people at home go on and on. They enjoy complaining. How many of you have experienced this? (Many raise their hands)
See! They enjoy complaining, and when someone listens, they complain even more. At those moments you should just put on music and say, ‘Hey come on, let’s dance. Stop complaining.’ 

Q: Gurudev, you said that 2012 was going to be the year of 'Nanda' (bliss). How come it was such a hard year?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: The year of Nanda is not yet over, it will be over end of March.There are still three months more.
You know, it is good when things churn inside you, then you wake up.
It is not that it happens only in the outside world, but even in the spiritual field, it happens. People come here for spirituality but they get caught up in so many other things.


The other day a person came to me, and I said,‘Why did you come to me? You came to me for knowledge, and you have left the knowledge and you are thinking about all other things.'
That person said, 'This person said like this to me.’
Come on! If the world is bad, it is for a good reason; so that you better straighten yourself up. When you don’t see your own flaws, you see flaws in everybody else, and you think, ‘Everybody is bad, only I am good.'
I tell you, people who think like that are seriously wrong. They are not saadhaks (spiritual seekers). To be a saadhak is to look at oneself and see, 'What should I correct in myself, let me correct that.'
You cannot complain that it is cold in Germany in winter. It will be. It is good to stay indoors.
So, catch hold of wisdom. That is the only truth and the only reality. And that is what all this knowledge, meditation and sadhana is for. It gives you such inner strength that you can walk with a smile under any circumstance. Isn’t that what everyone is aspiring for?
Such an inner strength, that come what may, nobody can snatch your smile.
This is most needed. 

Q: How does one achieve and maintain inner strength?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: By waking up to this knowledge.
It should not be that just once a year you come, listen to some knowledge and go away. Make it part of your daily routine, so that it is maintained.
Also, humility is important. Sometimes, people get so numb to knowledge. They think, ‘I know it all.'
One should not get into that arrogance, ‘I know the knowledge, what is there to know.’ The constant revival of knowledge; of the same points that you know, and reliving it is important.
It is not a very tough or difficult task, and even if you lose the knowledge for a moment, it just comes back. Knowing that it comes back, you don’t really lose it, it is there. 

Q: Dear Gurudev, can you tell us why it’s good to come out of the comfort zone in which we feel safe and secure, and do things that we don’t like doing, or which we don’t feel comfortable doing.
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Coming out of your comfort zone time and again will expand your ability and your strength; you become stronger.
You are so caught up in your comfort zone. That is the cause of your fear, your anxiety, and your bondage. Your comfort zone is your bondage.
Sometimes when you wake up and say, ‘I am going to get out of this’, it brings that strength back to you.

Q: Why do people that we love commit suicide? Do they not feel our love?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Well, it is because they are not exposed to the knowledge and they don’t know what it is to be alive, or what it is to die.
They have no idea about their prana, or about their life. They are so obsessed with their comfort, so they commit suicide. People who want extreme comfort are those who commit suicide. They have no forbearance; they can’t bear a little discomfort.
That is where you need more prana and more energy.


The more you tell someone not to commit suicide, they’ll say, ‘No, I want to commit suicide.' Sometimes I tell them, ‘Okay, commit suicide, but climb Mt. Everest and from there you jump. Don’t hang yourself at home. Go for some adventure and if you die, you die. Good luck.’

It is stupid to commit suicide. They have not been exposed to this beautiful knowledge and they don’t know the value of life. That is why it is very important for us to teach everybody about their breath.
When prana level is really low, that is when thoughts of commiting suicide arise. When the prana is high, this thought will not come.
No crime will happen if prana is high. You will not be violent to yourself or others when your prana is high. That is why Sudarshan Kriya, pranayama, meditation, all these practices need to be taught to people.
Also, such people who have such tendencies should engage themselves in serving others.
In ancient India, nobody would be given knowledge unless they break their bones to do some seva. 10 to 12 years, people would stay in a monastery and they would do so much service. Only then they would be given some knowledge.
When the body is fit from doing so much service, so much work, then the mind is fit and humble. It is like training in martial arts. Have you seen martial art training? Mind and body are coordinated.
You are trained like that in the army as well, so that your emotions are not all over the place, and you are not thinking of 'me' all the the time.

Q: Dear Gurudev, when we have some problems or decisions to make and we get the answer from the voice inside us, how do we know who is speaking? Is it our mind, intuition or the Divine itself?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: It is all the same, don’t worry about it. There is no need to analyse it too much, just be at ease. When we are at ease, the right answer comes up.
Intuition cannot come by forcing ourselves. It is a natural phenomenon.



重生

2012年12月27日 德國,Bad Antogast


問:您可以解釋為什麼我們應該避免重生嗎?
古儒吉:如果你醒過來看,在生命裡有那麼多的痛苦,而痛苦是你所不喜歡的。你不要痛苦。什麼是我們不要的就叫做痛苦,而它就在生命裡。夫妻之間,爸爸和媽媽,媽媽和女兒,女兒和兒子;和朋友與敵人,都有痛苦。就連你的身體也帶給你痛苦。你所做的任何事情,都有一些痛苦。

當你出生在這個世界上,你是依賴的。當你是嬰兒的時候你連自己站起來都不能,別人需要扶你而別人也需要為你擦洗。你在出世的那一刻就是依賴的,而就算到了老年你也是依賴的,但是金錢給了你假的見解以為你是獨立的。這就是為什麼它被稱為幻相(Maya)。幻相的意思是製造一個印象。如果你給別人幾塊錢美金,他們會來為你工作,這讓你覺得你是獨立的。在生命裡是有依賴性的。當有依賴性的時候就有痛苦。而什麼是痛苦的就是不愉快的,而你不要得到它。所以人們說『我不要再重生。夠了就是夠了。』

只需要去想像,你需要再去學校,被重打,然後去學院然後要經歷那些少年危機。看看那些青少年們,他們的臉浮腫;那麼的生氣。他們生氣他們的父母而他們不知道該怎麼做。看,不只是你的敵人困擾你,你的朋友也困擾你。所有的一切都是困擾。你的心智被你的朋友佔據著和被你的敵人佔據著一樣多。所以他們都困擾你。此外,把你的困擾都放在一邊,你的心智就是你最大的困擾。實際上沒有別的事情會比你的心智更困擾你,我告訴你。事實上,別的事情可能看起來在困擾你,但是並不是其它的,而是你的心智。

你要從你的心智裡得到自由所以你說『我不要再重生了。』但是只要你知道困擾你的其實是你的心智,而不是其他人,那就是智慧。當智慧來臨時你就會說『我不介意就算是要再重生多十次,或幾百次,或幾千次,我還是會來。』然後你就會發現生命是喜悅,生命是極樂。這就是智慧!

昨天我說,心智是我們最好的朋友和心智是我們最壞的敵人。它看起來像是在朋友之內的敵人和在敵人之內的朋友。你的心智會扭轉,歪曲,製造它自己的地獄和自己的天堂。所以我們真正要的是心智的自由,但是你說『我不要再重生了。』

問:要如何和應對小我非常大的人,尤其是當他們的行為在壞的方面影響到生活和其他人?

古儒吉:就讓他們有那些大的小我吧,為什麼你要管他?你在孕育一個比他們更大的小我,故事就在這裡結束。事實上你會發現你有更大的小我,我告訴你。讓他們有小我,那又怎麼樣?為什麼你要簽張毀掉別人小我的合約,或讓每個人的小我變小?如果別人有小我,大自然會教育他們。一天天,他們會變得痛苦。隨他們去。讓他們享受那些音樂。
為什麼你要因為看到別人的小我而痛苦?我不明白這點。

你做自己該做的,做你所能做到的,繼續向前進。就是這樣。在生命裡我們應該繼續向前進。如果有人討厭你,你站起來對他們喊叫,或對他們尖叫,『你昨天;前天和十年前為什麼那麼對我?』。但我告訴你,你談及一些昨天或一個月前的錯誤確實是破壞了當下。你破壞了當下的美 麗。我要你現在就做個決定『我不管過去發生過什麼事,現在我不要破壞這個當下』,結束。這個世界就像是海洋,這些事情會發生。它們發生了也離開了。 沒有明顯的原因為什麼朋友成為敵人而敵人成為朋友。你們多少人有這樣的經歷,就算你對某人只是做了好事,但是沒有原因的他就成為了你的敵人?(很多人舉手)你會好奇『我的天,我只對這個人做了好事,為什麼他責怪我?為什麼這個人變成了敵人?』還有,也有一些人你並沒有幫過他們什麼但是他們卻幫了你很多。你們多少人有這個經歷?(很多人舉手)看,一個人是否成為你的朋友或敵人,這些都是以一個很奇妙的業力法在運作。這就是為什麼,把他們統統都放在一個籃子裡然後放鬆。這,我把它當成是我的政策。你對一個人做了很多好事但是如果那個人生氣你,或他們責怪你,你會怎麼做?所以,不要去咀嚼然後讓過去破壞當下的這一刻。 這是不是一個好主意?這個當下讓我們慶祝吧。
在過去我時常聆聽別人,他們所有的故事和他們彼此責怪對方。突然間我明了了,『不,我再也不要在聽任何人埋怨了。我不要破壞當下的能量。』處理好你的事情,那是你的業力。這是古時候的人常說的。他們從來不會像個輔導員般的坐下來聽完你所有的故事。他們會說『拜託,當下就醒過來;現在(彈著他的手指)』,而這會帶給心智,和時間很大的轉變。但是你不要現在就開始這麼做,那你會被稱為最不敏感和最粗魯的人。知道嗎?慢慢的做。你需要聽一聽別人,這也是我做了那麼多年的。但是那個點將到來,尤其是和人們,當你必須說『好吧,現在不要了』。有時候那會發生,家裡的老人會一再重覆。他們享受埋怨。你們有多少人經歷過這個?(很多人舉手)看!他們享受埋怨,而當有人聆聽的時候,他們會埋怨更多。那個時候你應該播些音樂然後說『嘿來吧,跳舞吧。停止埋怨吧。』

問:古儒吉,您說2012年將是個極樂年(Nanda )。但為什麼它是那麼艱難的一年?
古儒吉:極樂年並未結束,他會在三月底才結束。還有三個月。你知道,有東西在你內在攪動是好的,你就會醒來。這不是只是在外面的世界發生,但是在心靈領域,它發生。人們為了靈修來到這裡但是他們卻被很多其它的事情困住了。
前幾天有個人來見我,而我說『為什麼你來見我?你來見我是為了知識,但是你卻遺棄了知識而只是想著其它的事情。』那個人說『這個人對我說了這樣的話。』拜託!如果這個世界是壞了,這也是為了好的原因;所以你最好是整頓好自己。如果你看不到自己的缺陷,你看到別人的缺陷,而你卻想『全部人都是壞的,只有我是好的。』我告訴你,這樣想的人是嚴重的錯了。他們不是尋道者(saadhaks )。要成為尋道者就是要看著自己然後想『我要如何修正自己,讓我修正這個。』你們埋怨說德國的冬天很冷。它會是這樣。呆在室內比較好。所以,抓緊智慧。這是唯一的真理和現實。而這就是這些知識,靜心和靈性修持(sadhana)的用意。它給你這種內在的力量讓你在任何的情況下都可以帶著微笑走過。這不就是所有人都渴望的嗎?這麼樣個內在的力量,讓該來的都來,沒有人可以搶走你的微笑。這是最需要的。

問:要如何取得和維持內在的力量?
古儒吉:從意識到了這方面的知識。這不應該是你一年才來一次,聽取些知識然後離開。把它當成你每一天的例行,好讓它維持。還有,謙卑很重要。有時候,人麼對知識是那麼麻木。他們心想『我全都知道。』一個人不應該變成傲慢,『我知道那個知識,那有什麼好需要知道的。』知識是不斷再生的;你所知道的相同的點,而重溫這一點是很重要的。這不是件很棘手或是困難的任務,就算你失去知識一陣子,它還是會回來。知道它會回來,你不會真正的失去它,它就在那裡。 
 問:親愛的古儒吉,您可以告訴我們從我們感到安全和可靠的舒適區走出來,並去做那些我們不喜歡做的,或是去做那些我們覺得做了會不舒服的事情會有什麼好處?
古儒吉:從你的舒適區時間裡走出來會增加你的能力和你的力量,你會變得更堅強。你是如此陷入在自己的舒適區。這造成你的恐懼,你的焦慮,和你的束縛。你的舒適區就是你的束縛。有時候你醒過來並說『我要從這裡走出去』,它會帶回那個力量給你。

問:為什麼我們愛的人會自殺?難道他們感覺不到我們的愛嗎?
古儒吉:好,這是因為他們沒有接觸到知識和他們不知道什麼是活著,還是死是什麼。他們完全不知道自己的能量,或是關於他們的生命。他們是如此沉迷在自己的舒適感,所以他們自殺。那些要極度舒適感的人就是那些自殺的人。他們沒有忍耐度;他們不能忍受一丁點的不舒服。這就是為什麼你需要更多的Prana和更多的能量。
你越是勸一個人不要自殺,他們會說『不,我要自殺。』有時候我告訴他們『好,自殺,但是去爬喜馬拉雅山再從那裡跳下來。不要在家上吊。去探險而如果你死了,你就死吧。祝好運。』
自殺是很笨的。他們並沒有接觸過這些漂亮的知識而他們不知道生命的價值。所以這就是為什麼我們教別人關於他們的呼吸是很重要的。如果能量很低的時候, 這就是自殺的念頭升起的時候。當能量很高的時候,這樣的想法不會出現。在能量高的時候沒有罪案會發生。當你的能量很高的時候你不會對你自己或是別人使用暴力。這也是為什麼淨化呼吸,調息法,靜心,和這一切練習要教導給別人。
還有,有這類傾向的人應該投身在服務別人。在古時候的印度,沒有人會被傳授知識除非他們盡心力的去做服務。十年至十二年,人們會住在修道所而他們會去做很多的服務。只有這樣他們才會被傳授知識。當身體適應做這麼多的服務,這麼多的工作,然後心智才會適應和謙卑。就像是武術練習那樣。你看過武術練習嗎?心智和身體是一致的。在兵營也是這樣訓練的,所以你的情緒不會散亂,而你也不會時時刻刻只是想著『我』而已。

問:親愛的古儒吉,當我們面對問題或是需要做決定的時候而我們從內在的聲音聽到答案,我們要怎麼知道是誰在說話?是我們的心智,直覺或是神性本身?
古儒吉:它們全都一樣,不要去擔憂那。也不需要去分析太多,只需要放鬆。當我們放鬆的時候,正確的答案自然會升起。直覺是不會從強迫自己而來的。它是個自然現象。

Friday, January 18, 2013

Quote of the day


"Labour to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience."
- George Washington

Thursday, January 17, 2013

Guru Punch! 古儒吉智慧語錄

Some people act good and some act bad, but everyone is going to die, and the world will be finished. This set of people will all go away. Then new people will come and they will all die. Then another set of people will come, they will fight among themselves, they will hug, love, kiss, do everything, and they will all die. See, the world is like a river, there is fresh water flowing every moment in this river. What is it that you are so bothered about? - Sri Sri

有些人表現得很好而有些人表現得不好,但是每一個人都終究會死去,而世界也會結束。這一組人也會完全的離開。而新的人會來到然後又死去。然後新的一組人會來到,他們會在彼此之間起紛爭,他們會擁抱,相愛,親吻,做完所有的事情,然後他們也會死去。看,這個世界就像是河流,時無刻都有清新的水在流通著。讓你耿耿於懷的到底是什麼?~古儒吉

Every human being is a book in himself/herself 每一個人都是自己的一本書


Every human being is a book in himself/herself - a novel. In a library we get all kinds of books. The whole world is a library. There is only One Author for all these books and He is flooding the market! Only a few, who are awake, see that these are all stories and rejoice. And you are one of those few. If you think you are not, become one right away. You have a lifelong membership in this library. ~Sri Sri Ravi Shankar

每一個人都是自己的一本書——一本小說。
在讀書館裡我們可以得到很多種書。整個世界就是個圖書館。這些書就只有一個作家而祂佔據了整個市場!只有少數醒過來的,看到這些故事而感到欣喜。而你就是少數裡的之中之一。如果你覺得你不是,那馬上成為其一吧。在這個圖書館裡你有終身會員資格。~古儒吉

A Balance of the Heart and the Mind 心和心智的平衡

A Balance of the Heart and the Mind


January 07, 2013


Kochi, Kerala


(Sri Sri at the International Leadership Summit)



1863

In a home, do you know who the real leader is? Is the father the leader of the house, or the baby?
You will be surprised to know that it is the baby that leads the house. It is around the baby that the entire family circles, isn't that so?!
That is why, I consider myself as a baby; as a child.

A real leader needs to have these two qualities, one of the head and the other of the heart - Sensibility and Sensitivity.
Often what we see, people who are very sensible, are not sensitive, because they are so focused on reason; on being sensible and logical. And then there are those who are very sensitive that at the drop of a hat, tears come into their eyes, but they are not sensible enough.
Neither of these two can become a good leader, because you need to have a balance of both - Sensibility and Sensitivity; heart and mind, because we are all made up of these two very important aspects of our life.
Intellect has its unique place, and so do our emotions.


In the past century, the emphasis has been only on the intellect. A tear in a man's eyes was considered to be something weird. How can a man cry?!
And a woman taking a mike, and standing up and speaking, or fighting for her rights, was considered to be weird. And that is how the society was. Women could not lead!
Of course, not in Kerala. In Kerala, a different system has been there. But world over, women were not given that intellectual power to speak because she was brushed aside as the more fair and sensitive race. Today, the scenario has changed.
Today, we need sensibility and sensitivity. We need that softness of a female in every leader, and the strength and perseverance of a male in every woman, then one can lead any organization. What do you say?!
There is something very important that I want to tell you. Whenever we have to discuss about leadership, or anything very dear to our hearts, we need to be in a very informal atmosphere.
So, why don't we just take half a minute, to greet the person behind us, in front of us, to our sides, saying, 'I belong to you!'

Done?! Did you greet the people near you?
Some of you were so shy to even say 'Hi' to others.

Many times, we find leaders in such a position. They don't look at people, they look somewhere else and keep talking. They can't relate to people, isn't it?!
So did you really tell the people around you, 'I belong to you'; or you did it as a formality?

You must have noticed, when you get off the plane, the air hostess greets you saying, 'Have a nice day!' They say this much but they don't really mean it.
In the same way, most of the pleasantries that we exchange in our daily lives, is from that level. We say, 'Hi', or 'Welcome', but there is no warmth of welcoming someone.
But the same words, when it comes to you from someone very dear to you; your mother, or your sister, or close friend, then it carries some vibrations.
Most of what we communicate is through vibes, and words play a very small part of it. Your vibrations send more messages, even before words come out of your mouth.
A leader when he relies on his words should know for sure that his words will not be relied upon.
If you rely on words so much, people will not rely on your words. It has to come from deep within. That is what is called sincerity, when there is a connect between your vibes, your feelings and your words.
You may tell me, 'Gurudev, it is so difficult to match these three. How is it possible?! If everybody could match these three, everybody would be a saint. It is not practical!'
I tell you, okay, I agree with you. You will not be able to match it 100%, but at least can you match 25%. That much you can do, because people can feel it; sense it.
So we convey a lot through our vibrations than through words. Words are important but it needs that presence.

People are intelligent, they can make out when you really welcome someone and when you are doing it as a formality.


Okay, I have another exercise for you. Will you do it? Are you ready?
Can you turn to the person next to you and tell the person, 'I don't trust you!'
If your spouse is next to you, this is an opportunity! (Laughter)
You all did it so quickly?!
Did you notice that it was not easy to do that. This is the very first time that you must have told someone, 'I don't trust you', and you started laughing and they started laughing as well. Transformation has begun.
You were not relying on their words and they were not relying on your words, isn't it?!

Just for a minute close your eyes, and just imagine, no one trusts you. Everybody is telling you, 'I do not trust you.'
You may open your eyes.
How do you feel? Relieved?! Awful?!
(Audience: Awful; miserable; uncomfortable; desperate; sad; horrible; dejected)

You know, this is what we generate when we have this attitude, 'I don't trust anybody.'
We create such a vibration, that anybody who comes around us, they feel that we feel that way, and then there is mistrust in society, and that is how society starts going down and conflicts arise.
Do you know, most conflicts can be solved at the very beginning itself, if the pact of trust is attended to.
See, when you feel nobody trusts you, you feel so bad, and you feel such a bad vibration all around you, and that creates such an atmosphere that is not good for you or for anybody else.
I don't mean that you have to be naive, but at the same time I want you to look at this aspect of trust. A society which has no faith in human values cannot flourish, or progress, or be creative, on any count. This is my conclusion.

Now you may ask, 'What about self-doubt. I trust others but I don't trust myself.'
This is another form of the same disease. Lack of trust in yourself leads to lack of trust in others. Lack of trust in others leads to lack of trust in the values of society, which leads back to lack of trust in oneself.
This needs to be corrected. And anything that corrects this should be welcomed.
Trust between communities, trust between members of the same family is important.
I would say, it is stress that is responsible for distrust.

Don't think everyone is a fraud. There are good people on the planet and that counts for majority of them. The world is bad today, not because of a few bad people, but it is the silence of the good people that has created unfavourable situations. Now it is in our hands to change this.
Each one of you is a leader, don't look for a leader.
What is important is to lead from behind. A real leader is not one who emphasizes, 'I am the leader, you must follow me', instead he says, 'Go forward', and he pushes others in front. 'I am here with you, so you run'; just like the coach who assists his participant in a running race, or a coach who teaches you swimming.
Someone argues, how can I jump into the water when I don't know swimming. But unless you get into the water, how can you learn swimming?! You can't swim in the air. So that guidance has to come from one's own very life's example.

You have seen the big uproar that has happened in India. Finally people have woken up to the plight of women. It is not the first time that a woman has been abused, it has been happening for many years and in many places. People have woken up, and everybody is demanding that these people need to be punished, but they are leaving out one person, i.e., Mr. Alcohol.
If these people were not drunk, perhaps they would not have gone out of their senses. And if these people were in their senses, perhaps they would not have committed such a crime. But they were totally drunk. Isn't it?!
It is alcohol which is the first culprit.

I keep hearing of this everyday; every single day. Men drink at night and then they go and beat up their wives, and in the morning they ask her for forgiveness, and she forgives them and life continues.




Q: You just said that alcohol is the main reason behind the Delhi gang rape case. But today, there have been cases of young girls being raped by their own fathers. In those cases, it is not just alcohol. What is the bigger problem?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Correct, it is not alcohol which is the main reason behind this case.
Sex offenders have primarily three issue. One is hormone issues, where there could be some serious hormonal imbalances in them.
Second is emotional disturbances. The person must be a victim of some sort, within themselves.
Third is, total deterioration of human values.

So, these three things together can make a person do such criminal acts which they themselves would regret.
It is not that they would feel very happy that they have achieved something great. They are doing such a bad thing to a small child.
They are compelled because of their sick mind, imbalanced emotions and hormones. So these kind of people need treatment. They definitely need counselling, and society needs to provide them with this kind of counselling without any stigma.
Do you know, this is not just in rural places, in fact, it is more in all the advanced countries. In world over, this problem of child molestation is prevalent. So many such cases are there. Father molesting his own daughter, we have heard of something like this in India only recently, but this has been happening in America for so many years. And it has gone to an extent with all these television shows, that sometimes, children start doubting, 'Oh, maybe my father did like this to me.'

I want to share one such case with you.
An elderly couple came to me. Their daughter who at time was already 38 years of age, suddenly thought, after watching all these talk shows, that she is a victim. That her father did this to her when she was a child.
So suddenly, after this television show, the relationship between the parents and the daughter became so bad.
The father was crying, saying, 'How can I ever do such a crime. My daughter thinks I have done this to her.'
So, some of these television shows can make such an impact as well, that it destroys the family.
Are you understanding what I am saying? It took me quite a while to sit them all together, to counsel them, to make them meditate, and all that.
Of course, finally the family came together, they could let go of these impressions.
Many times people consider themselves as victims to draw more attention. These kind of things also happen in society. 
We need to put an end to crime against women and children at any cost. This can only happen when society turns more spiritual, more humane and more sensitive.

Q: If government is corrupt, how can the nation create good governance.
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: The government has no personality, it is the people in the government who become corrupt. It is the people who can become incorrupt as well.
See, corruption begins where the sense of belongingness ends. Nobody can be corrupt with people whom they think belong to them. They will not take bribe from their friends and family. They take bribe only from those whom they find are outside their sense of belongingness.
So, corruption and crime, these two things have to be removed, otherwise the government cannot be effective.

Criminal elements in the government is a horrible thing.
Do you know why every party gives tickets to these criminal elements? It is because they have a vote bank. If you, the good people start making your own vote banks, you can dictate to every party, 'If you give tickets to criminal elements, we are not going to vote for you', then no party will dare to give tickets to corrupt people or to the criminal elements in society.
That is why I said, we should all, together, stand up for human values in society, united. Individually we all stand up for values, but we need to stand up being united.
If all good people in Cochin stand up and say, 'We will not allow Cochin to be polluted. We stand for cleanliness in our city', then things start changing.
I feel this is necessary.


Q: There are many corporations that are venturing into social responsibilities, but recently the government has introduced some policies where this is being thrust onto corporations. What do you have to say about this?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: If the government says that companies have to spend 3% of their profits on social responsibility, a good corporation would spend 4% of their profits, and not limit to the 3% as per the government's guidelines.
It is a good thing that the government has given such a guideline. At least 2% to 3% must be given towards corporate social responsibility.
I don't think there is anything wrong with this decision of the government. I think this one decision is very good, that every corporation should spend at least some percentage of their profit for the welfare of others.
This has been said in our Dharma Shastras as well. Anyone who gets any profit has to share a percentage of it for the welfare of society.


Q: Can you say something about entrepreneurship.
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Entrepreneur is a projection of creativity. One aspect of creativity.
An entrepreneur has to come out of his or her comfort zone. One cannot say, 'I want to be in my comfort zone and I want to be an entrepreneur', that is not going to work.
Entrepreneurship always involves risks and the ability to undergo hardship.




Q: What is the significance of the culture of leadership in organizations?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: A leader has to walk the talk. Be sensible, sensitive and compassionate.
We need three things in life, Passion, Dispassion and Compassion.
You can't have only passion, then you feel very stressed out. You need to have dispassion, you need to know how to let go. If you keep holding onto things when they are out of your hands anyways, you will only be more stressed. And a stressful person is a burden for himself, for the society and for everybody.
A stressful person becomes harmful and toxic.
In any institution you should identify those who are stressed. The ones stressed are soon going to become toxic. So, see to it that the person changes his whole attitude and feels better about himself.
When people are relieved of stress, then you see a wave of change that arises.

It is not an easy task. If someone is not willing to let go of his or her stress, you cannot make them let go of it. So, it is an uphill task and you have to do that.


Q: You have already told that women are naturally good leaders, but there are not enough women leaders. Can you tell us, what are the barriers for becoming a good leader?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: I want to tell you that India has more women leaders than any other part of the world. Do you know that?
We have many women members of Parliament, many women in the legislative assembly, and many states ruled by women. The whole country has been ruled by women for several decades; so never think that you need to be empowered by somebody.
Here, in India, women are already empowered. America has to learn that. America has not yet come to that level as far as women empowerment is concerned.


Q: In my work environment, I meet different kinds of people, and I may not like talking to some of them. How do I be diplomatic in my approach?
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: This is a very tricky question.
Sometimes if you are not direct, and if you don't tell them on their face, they think that you are giving them some other indications in a subtle way, or are confirming what they have in their own mind.
At the same time, you need not be rude when you need to express your opinions, or ideas, which you want to put forth. So, it is really about striking a balance.
There is no definite formula. You have to play by the ear.
How to be diplomatic - this cannot be taught now and applied later. It has to come out of you spontaneously at that moment.


心和心智的平衡

2013年1月7日 柯欽,喀拉拉

你們知道在一個家庭裡誰才是真正的領導者嗎?是父親還是嬰兒?你會驚訝的發現嬰兒才是一個家庭的領導者。整個家庭都會圍繞著嬰兒轉對嗎?這就是為什麼我把自己當成嬰兒;一個孩子。


一個真正的領袖需要有兩個品質,一個是頭,而另外一個是心——敏性和敏感度。通常我们所看到的是,靈敏的人,是不敏感的,因为它们很专注在理由;处在靈敏和逻辑。然后那些很敏感的人就连帽子跌了,眼泪都會涌出来,但是他们却不够靈敏。


这两者都不能成为好的领袖,因为你需要有两者的平衡——靈敏性和敏感度;心和心智,因为我们是由这两个生命里很重要的环节所组成。智力有它独特的地方,情绪也是。


在过去的世纪,重点就只是放在智力。一个男人眼里有眼泪就會被当成是件很奇怪的事。一个男人怎么可以哭!?而一个女人拿起麦克风,站起来演说,或争取她的权利,都会被当成怪事。那就是社会过去的模式。女人不能领导!

当然,不是在喀拉拉(Kerala)。在喀拉拉,有一套不一样的系统在那里。但是整个世界,女人还是没有给予知识的力量来发表因为她們被置之一旁就像那些比較公平和敏感的族群。今天,情況已經改變。
今天,我們需要靈敏性和敏感度。

我們需要在每一個領袖之內都有女性的柔軟,而在每一個女性裡都有男性的力量和毅力,這樣一個人就可以帶領任何的組織。你們怎麼說?
這裡我有些很重要的事情要告訴你。每當我們要討論領導能力的時候,或是任何和我們的心很貼近的事情,我們需要一個非常非正式的氣氛。所以,我們用半分鐘,去問候我們後面,前面,旁邊的人,說,『我屬於你!』

好了嗎?!你有問候靠近你的人嗎?你們當中有些人就連要說『嗨』都那麼害羞。

很多時候,我們發現領袖在這樣的位置。他們不看別人,他們看別的地方然後繼續說話。他們不能和人們連接,對不對?所以你真的有告訴你周圍的人『我屬於你』;或你只是把它當成一個禮節?
你可能有發現到,當你下飛機的時候,空姐會迎送你說『
祝你有個愉快的一天!』她們說那麼多但她們並不真正有那個意思。同樣的,我們生活當中多數交換的噓寒問暖,就是從那個水平的。我們說『嗨』或『歡迎』,但是我們對某人的迎接並沒有暖意。但是同樣的話語,如果是來自某些和我們親近的人;你的媽媽,或姐姐妹妹,或好友,那它就會帶著一些震波。
 我們多數的溝通都通過震波,而言語只是很小的部分而已。你的震波會帶些訊息,在言語還沒有從你的嘴巴出來之前就已經有了。一個領袖如果只依賴他的話語那他應該知道他的話語是不能被依靠的。如果你很依賴話語,人們是不會依靠你的話的。它必須來自內在的深處。這就叫做誠意,當你的震波,你的情感和你的話語有所連接的時侯。

你可能會告訴我,『古儒吉,要符合這三樣是那麼的難。這怎麼可能?!如果每個人都符合這三點,那麼大家都是聖人。這不實際!』我告訴你,OK,我認同你。你不能百分百符合它,但你至少要符合25%。你能做這麼多,因為人們可以感覺到它;感受它。所以比起我們的言語我們透過震波傳達的更多。言語很重要但是它需要那個存在。人們是很聰明的,他們會認出你是真正的歡迎某些人或你那麼做只是因為禮儀。

OK,我有另一個練習要給你。你們會做嗎?準備好了嗎? 你們可以轉向你隔壁的那個人並告訴他『我不信任你!』如果你的配偶在你隔壁,那這就是機會!(笑聲)

你們全都做的那麼快?!你們有沒有發現要這麼做並不容易。這可能是你第一次那麼告訴一個人『我不信任你』而你開始笑了而他們也開始笑了。轉變也開始了。你不依賴他們的話語而他們也不依賴你的話語,對不?!

就用一分鐘的時間閉上眼睛,就只是想像,沒有人信任你。每個人都告訴你『我不信任你』。
你們可以睜開眼睛了。你們感覺怎麼樣?松了一口氣?!糟糕?!(觀眾:糟糕;痛苦;不舒服;壓抑;傷心;恐怖;沮喪)

你們知道,這就是我們抱着『我不信任你』這種態度時所產生的。我們製造了這樣的震波,來到我們身邊的任何人,他們感受到我們這樣的感受,然後社會就有不信任,這也是社會開始淪落而衝突開始發生。
  你們可知道,衝突在最初的時候是可以化解的,如果信任的協議存在。看,當你覺得沒有人信任你,你覺得很槽糕,你感到很多不好的震波在你周圍,這製造了對你或對任何人都不好的氣氛。我並不表示你要變得很天真,但是同一時間我要你看看這個信任的方面。一個社會如果在人類價值上沒有信念那它是不會繁榮,或進步,或有創意,在任何情況下。這是我的結論。
現在你可能會問我『自我懷疑呢。我相信別人但我不相信自己。』這是同個疾病的另一個模式。對自己缺乏信任造成對別人也缺乏信任。對別人缺乏信任造成對社會價值缺乏信任,然後造成對自己缺乏信任。這需要被糾正。而任何能糾正這個的都是被歡迎的。社區之間的信任,家人之間的信任很重要。我會說,壓力需要為不信任付上責任。

不要去想別人是個騙局。這個星球上有好人而這是絕大多數。今天的世界是壞的,並不是因為那幾個壞人,而是因為好人的沉默造成這個不利的處境。現在這個改變就在我們手裡。你們每一個人都是個領袖,不要再去找領袖。 
 重要的是從背後領導。一個真正的領袖不是那個一再強調『我是領袖,你一定要跟從我』,相反的他會說『到前面去』然後他把別人推向前。『我和你們在一起,所以你跑吧』;就像個在賽跑比賽裡協助選手的教練,或是教你游泳的教練。

有些人爭議到,我要如何在不會游泳的情況下跳進水里。但是除非你跳進水里,不然你怎麼學游泳?!你不能在空中游泳。所以領導必須要來自一個人自己的生命例子。
你們看到印度升起的一大片喧嘩。終於有人被婦女的困境喚醒。這不是第一次婦女被虐待,這發生了很多年和在很多的地方發生。人們已經醒來,大家都在要求這些人被懲罰,但是他們遺漏了一個人,比如酒精先生。如果這些人不是因為喝醉酒,也許他們不會失去他們的理智。而如果他們還在理智裡,也許他們不會犯下這樣的罪行。他們是完全醉了。對嗎?酒精是第一個元兇。
我這幾天都聽到;每一天。男人在晚上喝酒然後他們就去打他們的太太,然後到了早上他們就請求她的原諒,然後她原諒了他們然後生活再繼續下去。


 問:您剛剛說到酒精是新德里輪姦事件背後的主要原因。但是今天,也有一些案件是年輕女孩被自己的父親強暴。在這些案件裡,就不只是酒精而已了。更大的問題是什麼?

古儒吉:是的,在這個事件的背後不只是酒精而已。性罪犯主要有三個問題。一是荷爾蒙的問題,他們可能有一些嚴重的荷爾蒙失衡。第二是情緒困擾。這個人必定是在某種形式下的受害者,在他們之內。第三是,人類價值的退化。
所以,這三者加起來會讓一個人犯下這樣一個讓他們自己都會後悔的犯罪行為。這並不是他們會為自己做了些偉大的事而感到高興。他們對小孩子做了那麼壞的事。他們是被逼是因為他們那生病的心智,情緒和荷爾蒙的不平衡。所以這些人需要治療。他們肯定需要被輔導,而社會需要在沒有任何恥辱的情況下給他們這些輔導。你們可知道,這不只是在偏僻的地區而已,事實上,在先進的國家有更多。在全世界,這類兒童性騷擾問題都在遍布。所以有很多這樣的案子。父親性騷擾自己的女兒,我們只是在最近才在印度聽到這樣的事件,但是在美國這樣的事情已經發生了很多年。而電視節目也已經到了一定程度上,所以有時候,孩子會開始懷疑 『噢可能我的父親對我做了這樣的事情。』

我要和你分享一個這樣的案件。一對年長的夫婦來見我。他們那時候已經38歲的女兒,突然想到,在看了那些脫口秀後,她是個受害者。她的父親在她年幼的時候對她做了這樣的事。所以突然間,在這個電視節目之後,這女兒和父母的感情變得很槽糕。這位父親在哭泣,說到『我怎麼會做這麼樣一個罪行。我的女兒突然說我我對她做了這樣的事。』所以,有些電視節目可以造成這麼樣一個衝擊,就是摧毀家庭。你們明白我在說的嗎?我用了好一些時間去讓他們坐在一起,開導他們,讓他們靜心,和其他的。當然,最後那個家庭又回到一起了,他們放下了這些印象。很多時候人們把自己當成是受害者為了得到更多的關注。這些事情也發生在社會裡。
我們需要不惜一切代價讓對婦女和孩子的犯罪案終結。這只有當社會轉向更有靈性,更人道和更敏感的時候才會發生。 

問:如果政府是腐敗,那國家要如何才能創造更好的管治?

古儒吉:政府是沒有性格的,是在政府裡的人變成腐敗。也只有人才能變成不腐敗。 看,腐敗是因為歸屬感沒有了。沒有人會對那些他們認為是屬於他們的人賄賂的。他們不會對他們的朋友或家人賄賂。他們只會對那些在他們歸屬感以外的人賄賂。 所以,貪污和罪行,這兩件事必須被去除,不然政府是不會有效率的。
在政府裡的犯罪分子是件恐怕的事。你知道為什麼一些黨把票給這些犯罪分子嗎?因為他們有投票陣營。如果你,那些好人開始有自己的投票陣營,你可以主宰每一個黨,『如果你把票給犯罪分子,我們就不會投你』,這樣就沒有黨敢把票給那些腐敗的人或是社會的犯罪分子。
所以我說,我們全都應該,一起,為社會的人類價值站起來,團結。個別的我們為價值站起來,但是我們需要團結的站在一起。如果在科欽(Cochin 地方名)全部的好人站起來說『我們不會讓科欽被污染。我們為這個城市的清潔站起來』,這樣事情就會開始轉變。我覺得這是需要的。

問:有很多企業都有涉足社會責任,但是最近政府推出了一些新的政策進入這些企業。您對這件是有什麼看法?

古儒吉:如果政府說企業應該用3%的利潤在社會責任上,一個好的企業至少要用4%的利潤,而不是只是限制在政府的3%方針。政府給這樣一個方針是好的。至少2%至3%應該給予企業社會責任。我不覺得政府的決定有什麼不對。我覺得這個決定很好,一個企業至少需要用利潤上的一些巴仙率在別人的福利上。這也是我們的 Dharma Shastras 有記載。任何人都應該把任何利潤的一些巴仙率分到社會的福利上。


問:您可以提一提創業嗎。
古儒吉:創業是一個有創意的投影。一個方面的創意。一個創業家必須從自己的舒適區走出來。一個人不能只是說『我要在我的舒適區而我要成為一個創業家』,這是行不通的。創業家時常都需要涉及風險和也需要經歷困難的能力。

問:領導文化在一個組織裡的有什麼重要性?

古儒吉:一個領袖需要言行一致。要有靈敏性,敏感度和富有慈悲心。我們在生命裡需要三件事,熱情,不動心和慈悲心。你不能只是有熱情,那你會覺得很壓力。你需要不動心,你需要知道如何放下。如果你只是緊抓著那些無論如何也是會離開的東西,你只會更壓力。而一個壓力的人是自己,社會和所有人的負擔。一個壓力的人會變成有害和有毒。
在任何機構裡你應該要辨認那些有壓力的。那個有壓力的很快會變成有毒。所以,去看到那個人完全改變自己的態度和對自己感覺更好。當人們從壓力中舒緩出來,你會看到一股改變的浪潮升起。
這不是件容易的事。如果一個人不願意放下他或她的壓力,你不能讓他們放下它。所以,這是件艱鉅的任務而你必須要去做。 

問:您說過女人是天生的好領袖,但是並沒有足夠的女些領袖者。您可以告訴我們,什麼是成為領袖的障礙嗎?

古儒吉:我要告訴你印度比世界其它的地方有更多的女性領袖者。你知道這個嗎?我們有很多女性國會議員,有很多女性在立法大會,和很多的州被女性統治。這個國家被女性統治了好幾十年; 所以不要去想你需要被某些人授權。這裡,在印度,女人已經被授權了。美國需要學習這點。美國還沒有來到授權給女士的那個階段。

問:在我工作的環境裡,我見到不同類型的人,而我也不喜歡和他們當中的一些人說話。我在建交上應該用什麼方法

古儒吉:這是個非常棘手的問題。有時候如果你不夠直接,
而如果你沒有當面和他們說,他們認為你是在以一些含蓄的手法給他們提示,或是在和他們確認他們腦子裡所想的。同一時間,你也不需要在你表達你要提出的意見,或想法的時候用粗魯的方法。所以,它是關於取決平衡。這裡沒有明確的公式。你需要去發揮。如何去建交 ——這不是件可以現在教等下就派上用場的。它必須是在那個時候自己發出來的。